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Jason Cardillo (Jason_cardillo)
Junior Member
Username: Jason_cardillo
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 1:33 pm: |       |
When I was in highschool a lot of the athletes felt that they should be exempt from PE class and recieve credits for participating in a sport. Do you think this is fair? Should they just be exempt during the season their sport is in? Would this encourage more participation in sports? Should athletes be required to take gym class but have the option of a advanced class? |
Joe Attieh (Joe_attieh)
Junior Member
Username: Joe_attieh
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 12:22 pm: | |
You make lots of good points Jason. I dont beleive any student should be exepmpt from PE class because he/she is involved in athletics but that idea of an advanced PE class is an excellent idea for those students that have a higher level of conditioning than some of the other students. |
Joseph Sabo (Jxs3225)
Junior Member
Username: Jxs3225
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 6:59 am: | |
Most athletes are in the best shape and would have no problem with the Physical Education class. Maybe if there is a class where students have to run a lot athletes with a game that night should maybe be exempt. |
Joe Herzog (Bigfish344)
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Username: Bigfish344
Post Number: 63
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 9:32 am: | |
Athletes should not be exempt from physical education any more than student on a math team should be exempt from geometry or calculus. Physical education and athletics are similarly related but clearly not the same. Athletics lacks the specific content standards for assessment. Athletics are specifically performance based while physical education is (or should be) knowledge based in it's assessment. A specific sport is narrowly based and repetitive, with a the goal of a more immediate result while physical education is broad based and directed at life long results and it's goal is to promote a life long active lifestyle. A student who participates in only one or two sports for an entire high school career runs the risk of developing overuse injuries, while a broad based curriculum in physical education provides a cross training effect which greatly lessens the likelihood of such injuries. |
Ryan Audia (Rfa5538)
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Username: Rfa5538
Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 11:12 am: | |
I do feel as if athletes should be exempt for PE during the season they are participating in, to prevent injuries. I know from experience that some phys ed classes can become pretty intense sometimes. I personally knew 2 kids on my baseball team to have season ending injuries during class. If exemption from class is out of the question tho; it is the coach's, parent's, and phys ed teacher's responsibility to stress safety to the athletes. |
Michael J. Roskamp (Roskampm)
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Username: Roskampm
Post Number: 27
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 3:24 pm: | |
Try this argument: If you can demonstrate that anything that would take the place of the PE class can meet the goals and objectives, and address the national standards (read- NASPE) that are being addressed in your QUALITY PE classes, then go ahead and substitute at will. The catch is this, this argument fails if the program you are offering is inconsistent with NASPE Standards, appropriate practices, and/or fail to achieve the intended objectives. |
Penny Bush (Epcnbush)
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Username: Epcnbush
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2010
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 2:34 pm: | |
I feel that high school athletes should be taking physical education. Students need to become proficient in many types of physical activities not just the activites they excel in. Doing so may increase their chances of participating in life long physical activity, which could increase their longevity and overall quality of life. |
scott bayha (Rhody)
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Username: Rhody
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2010
| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 9:29 am: | |
Besides aligning yourself with national standards (which is great). Does anyone have any other ideas/strategies to use in keeping athletes in PE? My district is looking for ways to make cuts and this is an idea that has been floated out there. Less students = less teachers |
Elizabeth White (Zwhite)
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Username: Zwhite
Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 3:14 pm: | |
I think that it depends. One good way is to only excuse them when they are in season. That way they can still benefit from PE when they are out of season. |
Penny Bush (Epcnbush)
Junior Member
Username: Epcnbush
Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2010
| | Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 5:09 am: | |
There are too many varibles to exempt any athlete from PE. In my school I have seen "athletes" who may have natural talent but never gives 100%. I have seen "athletes" who make a team, don't work hard at practice and never see any playing time. Those same "athletes" don't give any effort in PE class. Why should they be exempt? They should be role models in our classes and helping others! |
Scott Bayha (Sbayha)
Junior Member
Username: Sbayha
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 11:16 am: | |
I strongly agree with Bigfish344. We are teaching important lifelong skills in PE that the student-athlete needs to be aware of just as much as the student who doesn't participate in sports does. More and more we are seeing kids being written out of PE by a parent or doctor because they fear the "athlete" is going to injure themselves in class. Well how many of these students (and I emphasize the fact that they are students first...) are going to go on to play in college? They numbers are extremely low. So we excuse them from learning the lifelong skills that they are going to need immediately upon graduation for a couple of glory years being a high school athlete? I have a major problem with this. We as physical EDUCATORS need to step it up a notch in our teaching so more people understand the difference between being a high school athlete and being a physically fit (or at least having the knowledge to become physically fit) person for life. |
Elizabeth Kotch (Ejk2566)
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Username: Ejk2566
Post Number: 9
Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 5:34 am: | |
This is a really interesting idea that I have never thought of! In my opinion, no student should be exempt from PE classes, you can never have too much physical activity. I do think, however that making an option of an advanced PE class is an excellent idea. The athletes will be in a class with people who are around the same skill level as themselves, and the non-athletes will be more likely to enjoy participating rather than being intimidated. That is a great idea! |
Jennifer Peterson (Jenpete78)
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Username: Jenpete78
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 9:31 pm: | |
This is one dilemma my school district has considered as a way of cutting PE teachers to save money with all of our budget problems. We have been fighting this for a couple years now. We as teachers have been telling them it is wrong to exempt athletes from PE because we focus on multiple sports and activities that will stay with them for a lifetime. I also am an athletic trainer and athletes who only focus on one sport see more over use injuries than athletes who are involved with multiple sports or activities. All students need PE in school (including the athletes). At the school I teach at we have a PE 1 and PE 2, so the athletes who are more competitive can choose to take PE 2 (advanced PE) or weights that way they are still getting PE but it makes it a little more challenging to them. |
Jennifer Sattele (Jrgjazz)
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Username: Jrgjazz
Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 7:40 am: | |
Being a part of a school sport is and EXTRA curricular activity. Physical Education is a class that follows standards. These two are related but are not the same. Physical Education should be teaching students wellness, lifetime fitness, and many other things. An athlete will learn one sport and although they will learn some lifelong lessons they will not get the EDUCATION that they should be getting. |
Murray Mitchell (Mfmitchell55)
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Username: Mfmitchell55
Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 12:20 pm: | |
If I may, I'd like to pose the question a little differently. Is there anything going on in your program that will enhance the life and experiences of an athlete (or, any student for that matter)? I suspect this is a question that really should be answered on a program by program basis--versus developing a one-size-fits-all policy. Rather than having a reflexive response, a critical examination of what is being taught and what is being learned is a worthy question for everyone who runs any program (elementary, middle, high, or college/university). I still visit lots of programs where the honest answer to the question posed is "nothing." Just getting some physical activity, while important, is not worthy of academic credit. Just as was true back in the early 1980s when Judy Placek first noted "busy, happy and good" as the way many teachers evaluate successful programs, the critically absent component is student learning. Can good faith professionals require attendance of any students in programs where there is little if any expectation for student learning? |
Dan Kozak (Dkozak)
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Username: Dkozak
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 6:47 am: | |
I do not think athletes should be exempted from PE class. I was an athlete in high school (football and basketball, and if the risk of getting injured is an argument, I never once worried about getting injured in PE class or in my sport for that matter. Injuries can happen by simply tripping and falling down the stairs in the morning. However, as a former high school athlete, I always thought of PE class as a GPA booster and a class that I learned a lot in while also having a ton of fun, and I used my skills and athletic ability in my sport to help out and motivate the less athletic students in class. It's a good thing. |
alan hitchcock (Portageal)
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Username: Portageal
Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 2:00 pm: | |
athletes shoudln't be exempted from pe class because most states require pe to graduate. Think about it this way should athletes be exempt from english or math class. |
Nicole Olshalsky (Njphysed)
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Username: Njphysed
Post Number: 4
Registered: 4-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 6:25 am: | |
I do not feel that athletes should be exempt from PE. If a student chooses to participate in athletics, that is their choice; it does not take the place of all that is learned through PE class. Dealing with adverse talent levels, the development of social skills, leadership skills, etc., are just a few of the lifelong lessons learned in class. I believe that athletes should be your best students, but occasionally, they are the laziest. This is a case where teaching leadership skills and dealing with adversity occurs more than just on a field/court. |
Ariel Kattan (Moish7)
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Username: Moish7
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 5:05 am: | |
I do not believe athletes, or anyone for that matter should be exempt from a P.E. class. Unless that student has a medical reason for not participating, then they should participate. If an "athlete" does not participate in your class because they are exempt, all you are telling other students who are not athletes is that you are not good enough, and it really sends the wrong message. The option of the advanced class is a tough topic especially with a lot of states doing budget cuts, I am not sure an advanced class would even be an option at this point. |
Tyler Austin Lonchar (Tylerlonchar)
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Username: Tylerlonchar
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 1:21 pm: | |
If athletes in the school are exempt from Physical Education class, then I feel that other students in P.E or in the school for that matter, will feel like the athletes are better. Can this hurt the self esteem of other students? What if they try out for a team and get cut? Any thoughts? |
Nancy Brylewski (2234996)
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Username: 2234996
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2012
| | Posted on Monday, July 02, 2012 - 12:42 pm: | |
Should athletes participate in physical education class you ask, hands down the answer is YES! A physical education class that is taught properly would enhance the athlete’s abilities, sportsmanship and knowledge of many sports or activities. Using the possibility of an injury is just ludicrous. They could get hurt playing the sport, so does that mean then they shouldn’t play because they may suffer an injury. Again if the physical education class is taught properly with safety guidelines and warm up procedures injuries are rare. Physical educators also need to make sure they are monitoring their classes to prevent injuries as well. Physical education class is more than playing and getting exercise. There are standards that need to be met and measured. I doubt that coaches are going to add teaching the standards and measuring them to their already busy underpaid coaching jobs. Allowing athletes to use their sport as an excuse to get out of physical education class may increase the numbers on sports teams but who is going to keep track of those that are just there to get out of taking PE in school. I could see a student that doesn’t want to work up a sweat in school decide to participate in a sport and then go to practice and just do the minimum. Even if the coach would release that student from the team; then what do you do try and get him into a class. It really could turn into a nightmare. I also enjoy having the athletes in my classes. They like to have some pressure free activity time as well. Playing a sport can be stressful to say the least. Many of our athletes work well with those that are less talented and are able to be peer tutors. This is one concept that I would fight if our district ever tried to activate it. |
Dave Johnson (Pennstater55)
Junior Member
Username: Pennstater55
Post Number: 2
Registered: 7-2012
| | Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 1:36 pm: | |
I am opposed to the idea of exempting athletes from PE. In fact, I think most athletes are opposed to the idea of being exempt. Most of the athletes that I teach enjoy having the opportunity to run around during their school day and, sometimes, use the class time to hone their skills.
PE class isn't just about football, basketball, and major sports anymore. The focus has shifted to lifetime activities that most students probably haven't even tried yet. As I point out to our athletes, they may have another 10 - 15 years of their primary sport before age takes them out...but what then? Do they stop exercising? A quality PE class introduces students to activities that they can use for the rest of their lives. |
Caitlin Painter (Cpainter)
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Username: Cpainter
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2012 - 7:15 pm: | |
I do not believe athletes should be exempt from PE. A sport is not Physical Education; it is a sport. Does it give the students a good workout and get them in shape, sure, but it is not the same as PE. Physical Education teaches more than just sports; it teaches life long fitness which goes beyond most athletes' careers. Besides, in my opinion if you participate in a sport you should enjoy PE since you get the opportunity to be active and move around rather than sit in a classroom; so why not just take it? |
Tom Gazda (Coach143)
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Username: Coach143
Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 9:23 am: | |
no the entire idea is physical education...EDUCATION, where is the education in playing the sport. some kids don't even get playing time. and wheres the variety. simply because they play a sport does not mean they will make good life choices or try other options, |
