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Lindsay Kaye Seiler (Lindsay)
Junior Member
Username: Lindsay
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 11:11 am: |       |
Is it really necessary for students to have written exams in PE? Isn't PE a more of an assessment based class where your performance and effort should be graded? (I remember taking written exams in high school about volleyball and thinking this is ridiculous)! |
Michelle (Rockshel8)
New member
Username: Rockshel8
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 6:00 pm: | |
It is important to use cognitive exams to make sure the students are absorbing the information being taught. Although, this should not be the only why they get graded. The students should be assessed with skill's test, class assessments, cognitive quizzes, and personal development. |
Michelle H
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:22 am: | |
I am in the process of becoming a phys ed teacher and lately have been contemplating different types of assessment. I am currently a sub, and know many phys ed teachers, none of whom use ANY written assessments. I know they are important, but how do students react to having a test in gym class? |
Stacy Binder (Sab1310)
Junior Member
Username: Sab1310
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 10:44 am: | |
I agree with Michelle (Rockshel8). The students do need to be tested to make sure they are absorbing the information. You can teach a sport say volleyball and give them a skill's test and a written test on just the rules of volleyball. You could give them a test but make it fun by having stations set up they must answer five questions correctly to move on to the next station which could be serving a volleyball, then when completed five serves they go to another station and answer five more questions and so on.. |
Kristen Dittmer (Kris1136)
Junior Member
Username: Kris1136
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:05 pm: | |
I agree that students need to have cognative tests in physical education. Many students don't like phys ed because the are not athletic but they maybe very smart in the classroom. I think that for those students a cognative test is their time to shine. It is difficult to make PE a positive experiance for everyone. But if a student gets a good grade on a test I think that is a positive experiance for that student. |
Todd Staples (Berry117)
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Username: Berry117
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 4:07 pm: | |
I wanted to ask what is tested in a paper assessment that could not be measured in well planned cognitive physical assessment? Such as playing a game of volleyball and having everyone have an opportunity as the coach. Each student would be able to demonstrate whether or not they understood the rules and strategy while maximizing active learning time. Paper tests are often easier than quality assessment so I believe many teachers choose them for their own benefit rather than considering the benefit of active learning for students. What about that student who could demonstrate the rules of kickball by following them in a game but would have difficulty articulating them in test format. Should they be penalized? |
Lee Przygocki
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 9:04 am: | |
I also agree that there needs to be a cognitive assessment in physical education as well as a physical assessment. Having both these assessments reaches a lot of students learning levels. Some students may not be comfortable performing an action and will have nerves take over when doing a physical assessment. However, that same student could ace the cognitive assessment because they are more comfortable writing the skill down on paper and not performing it. This type of situation can go both ways.
Also having a written test will help physical education teachers teach across the curriculum. The students will be reading, writing, and critically thinking when taking the physical education test. |
Matthew Mills (Mattm1980)
Junior Member
Username: Mattm1980
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:07 am: | |
I think testing is important in PE for a nuber of reasons and can be done a number of ways all of which are beneficial. I think paper tests, or papers, however enable you to have some proof of what is being done. This can be important in some school districts that are cutting back due to budget cuts. Also as Lee says you can point out that PE benefits math (scores, percentage, sq foot of playing area etc), english (write about your favourite sports) and science (when is the best time to hit the tennis ball in the serve) for example. |
Nathan Booher (Nate)
Junior Member
Username: Nate
Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 8:49 am: | |
I feel that some paper testing is important in Phys. Ed. classes. This should not be the only grading that is done though. It could be balanced with journals/portfolios and skills tests. |
steve acree (Stephenpe)
Member
Username: Stephenpe
Post Number: 29
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 11:15 am: | |
I teach elementary PE and I cannot justify
having my kids sit and write during my PE time.
They now have PE 5 days every two weeks and they need that movement time. They sit in that classroom and do seat work, probably over 90% of
their time. The last thing they want is some
written PE test about their knowledge of some
activity. I can assess their knowledge watching them play. They get immediate feedback and correction if they need it. I know it looks better if we somehow present ourselves as academic like with formal assessments on paper but
PE is all about movment and getting kids engaged in activites to promote better health. I dont see paper work doing that. IF I taught HS PE and had them for an hour a day I might justify it then. I just read Stacybinders way and that sounds like a winner. |
Jon Weber (Jon)
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Username: Jon
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 11:25 am: | |
I have found myself debating whether or not to give written tests during my p.e. classes. I currently give 2 written quizzes during the year, one focuing on the five health-related components of physical fitness and the other on the F.I.T.T. principle. I emphasize the components throughout the entire year and feel it is important that the students learn and understand these concepts. Each quiz is only 10 questions and takes about 5-10 minutes at most to complete. |
Matthew Adkins (Madkins593)
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Username: Madkins593
Post Number: 1
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 2:08 pm: | |
I believe that students should have some form of written test. Stacy Binder's idea I think is best. If the students are doing a few questions at a station and combining it with play and practice, they will probably be more inclined to take it, or at least be somewhat okay with taking it. I have seen some teachers do written assessments for each unit which I don't necessarily agree with. Just because it does take away from what little activity time students already have. We want students to like Phys. Ed not hate it because it is just another test. We want them to like practicing skills, so they will do it at home and not just practice during school. |
Laura Itkin (Litkin)
Junior Member
Username: Litkin
Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 9:02 pm: | |
Physical education is meant for students to express themselves in another way other than the traditional paper and pen method. Students can be formally assessed in physical education by being asked to perform an activity or just by even participating in the activity. I do not think it is necessary to bring writing into a content area that does not need it. Leave the pens and papers inside for the classroom and bring out the fun and exciting activities during physical education time! |
steve acree (Stephenpe)
Senior Member
Username: Stephenpe
Post Number: 132
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2010 - 7:30 am: | |
Im with you, Laura. |
Matthew Bassett (Bassett1976)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bassett1976
Post Number: 43
Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 12:19 pm: | |
Laura, I just finished my process for National Board Certification. I also thought that it was important for students to skip their pencil/paper assessment but after going through the entire process of National Board I have changed my mind.
First, as stated by Michelle, the students need to have a cognitive understanding of what needs to be completed for the movement skill. This can quickly be done through a written paper. Remember that the assessment (or written activity) does not have to take too much time. Some things that I do with my kids are 2-5 minutes long. The written activity does not have to be an essay, it could be a paper that asks you to draw where your hands should be located on the ball while passing a chest pass to a partner (or a bounce pass). This shows that the students understand what they should be doing and is apart of motor learning, mental practice can help lead to better physical demonstrations. I use a lot of peer assessment worksheets that help the students look for the critical components of a skill and must watch a partner practice the skill. This allows the observer to watch the skill and see what is going on and it also allows the performer to get some extra feedback from a classmate (classmates sometimes take feedback better from another student instead of the teacher).
Second, assessments come in different forms. When you can explain to a parent that your child is not "doing well" in my class because they do not have an understanding of the cognitive background to the skill and they also cannot perform the physical skill it shows that you are assessing a student in various modalities. Some of your students will never be able to show you proficient levels of many of the physical skills that you teach. The students who struggle with the physical can show you the cognitive connections that they make and this can show that learning has occurred.
Try not to think about a paper/pencil assessment as taking away valuable movement time but that you are using another way to teach students and to learn what they truly understand. You may start to find that a few of your students need the extra step of concentrating on the cognitive concept before actually being able to physically demonstrate the physical skill. |
Mike Lindberg (Coachmike)
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Username: Coachmike
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 10:12 pm: | |
I know this is off topic but does anyone know of an Elementary
school that does NOT have a P.E .speacialist, that does a good job of teaching P.E. |
joy Bailey (Jbailey)
Junior Member
Username: Jbailey
Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 10:25 am: | |
I personally believe that cognitive tests are extremely important in P.E. class. This is not the only assessment method that I use however. The students need to be assessed through skills, effort, participation as well as cognitively. The cognitive aspect of fitness and sports are so important to the understanding of the concepts. |
