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Dr. Linda Wooderson
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:13 pm: |       |
I teach physical education pedagogy to prospective physical education teachers at a university. I would like to know what seasoned physical educators out there in the field teaching already would like to pass on to new physical educators not in the field. How can I better prepare these new educators for the "real" world? What information would you like to pass on to these new teachers that would not be learned in a book or does not occur like the teaching models say.
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dbush711274
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:13 pm: | |
i am just a first year teacher, but at the ripe ole' age of 26, i feel that i have seen enough to know that i needed more "hands on" clinical experience in the school physical educatiion environment. working with the students that they will be working with is the only true way to test the students that are entering the field like myself. my dept. head at the university that i graduated from in May 2000 asked me if there was anything i would change about the program, what would that be? i told him more clinical experience. too many college students have no idea the work that being a full time teacher requires. good luck to you in you research. i hope that i could be of some help.
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joedunn
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:14 pm: | |
I agree"Hands on" experience is what students need more of in college. I don't feel I was really prepared to teach until after my student-teaching. I think college students need to get a feel for what teaching is all about in the first couple of years.
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h. steven garza
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:15 pm: | |
inform your students the need to be: incorporating other disciplines into pe (a biggie), expand or at least implement adequate intramrual/field day events and consider themselves part of the overall staff (attend meetings, fulfill all written requirements, stay after school for parent conferences, etc.) Our profession is okay right now, but if you don't act professional, always, they will not need a professional to do your job.
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Anna Marie Frank
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:15 pm: | |
I also teach prospective physical education teachers at a university. We encorporate extensive clincial experience into our program. But, I am convinced that until they are really out there without us, their mind set is not what it should be, resulting in the student teaching "reality shock". I engage my students in conversations that attempts to get them to think about the transition from undergrad to professional. Many of these dialogues take place on-line and they love them. For example we talk about what they will do when one of their students comes to class high, drunk or hungover? What if it is an ahtlete? And the best discussion is, What students should be allowed to "opt" out of PE class. I have been wanting to get my students talking to other pre-service PE teachers on a MajorDomo "chat" server. Are you interested?? I have also found that as we attempt to meet NCATE/NASPE standards, clincial expereinces in schools we be increased.
Thanks for the conversation.
Anna Marie Frank
DePaul University, Chicago
P.S. don't anyone ask me about our Basketball team!
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Gwen Pribble
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:16 pm: | |
I agree with more time out in the field......to get more independent work, yet they should keep a journal or diary of these experiences and discuss them with the University and receive feedback.....SO IMPORTANT......can't be stated strong enough......FEEDBACK
...and I found it interesting that at the ungrad level......not much time was spent on evaluating specific movements......fundamental movements and evaluating these movements. You must be able to spot where the problems are with each child....poor mover to athlete. As a Phys. Ed. teacher you do not have a product to take your time with to evaluate with time......the evaluation is in the moment of the movement and you must be able to spot where it is that the child is having problems. So, the more practice, practice, practice one has.....the better one is able to assess quickly and mark the assessment/s to share with "each" child, regardless of skill level or innate ability.
Gwen
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Gwen Pribble
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:17 pm: | |
One more point I'd like to make is that I'm still learning about how to improve my program, and I've been teaching approx. 17 years. Nothing can prepare totally someone for the actual job...for it is so much more demanding and frustrating when one gets into the real world... i.e. the flexibility needed and finding the balance between what is right and what you can actually do. Schools and school systems request or suggest strongly...that you as a Phys. Ed. Teacher "can" do....blah blah blah, like lose your gym or area or double up on classes......easily, "can't you" ???? NO, I always state that I am a "Teacher" and my subject is "Phys. Ed." and I have a program and organization to that, i.e. a sequence to that program.....however, you can't convince them of that right off.....however, there are days you walk in and you discover you have no place to teach yet you have to find a place then clear it with all teachers who may have signed up for that space, i.e. the computer lab. Flexibility is key to making it in schools. Getting along is huge and being "postively" flexible is huge. Integration is huge......"mainstreaming" I am in no way against.....I have a lot of knowledge in the Adaptive world and continue to gain more all the time, yet when you have no say ? and it takes class sizes up to where it becomes ineffective...???? and you realize that it is done based on scheduling difficulities or solely for socialization vs for it is appropriate for the motor develop of the child. It gets a bit frustrating.
So, I recommend to all-----BE FLEXIBLE WITH A POSITIVE ATTITUDE......AND EDUCATE ALL NOT ONLY THE STUDENTS. Administrators, teachers, parents, and the community as well!!!
It will always pay in the end. ...and slowly, very slowly others will see your point of view.
Good luck,
Gwen
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Anna Marie Frank
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| | Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:17 pm: | |
Gwen,
thanks for you comments. I love to share comments like yours with my pre-service students. I agree that the reflection after observation is critical. I do most of mine on-line. And I totally agree with your comments on the ability to critique movements. We teach a diagnostic appraoch to teaching, "What is wrong, how can I help the student fix it." But many young teachers do not have the knowledge to confidently critique skills. I think the more we introduce qualitative assesment into their training, they may be more capable of making accurate assessments during their students' practice sessions.
Thanks for the conversations
Anna Marie Frank
DePaul Unviersity, Chicago
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Sharon Welch (Spe4me)
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Username: Spe4me
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Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 2:50 am: | |
I have worked with new teachers right out of college for over 12 years. The biggest problem is that they have no experience in elementary level. They have been taught a high school sports model so they want to water down the sports for elementary. Knowledge of movement concepts and skills have been lacking completely. Management skills have been poor. They aren't able to monitor class activity (pedagogy skills from Dr. Graham's book) and pace their lessons according to the needs of the students. Very little time is spent on reflection of lessons and adapting to changes. |
Diane Kay Walker (Jalopydi)
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Username: Jalopydi
Post Number: 9
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 6:42 am: | |
Dear Dr. Wooderson,
This is my 5th year of teaching elementary physical education. I agree with Sharon Welch. Elementary age children are still developing gross motor skills. They are not ready to play basketball, volleyball and other sports. They need learn how to throw and catch different types of balls. Children at this age need to learn spatial awareness. They will stand very close to one another or stand with their back against a wall. They also need directions to be very specific and they need to be taught procedures appropriate for a PE class. They can learn about health and fitness but some fitness tests being given are not
developmentally appropriate for them. They need to be taught a large variety of activities so everyone gets a chance to learn an
activity they enjoy. Not everyone enjoys basketball and not everyone enjoys dance. Finally, physical education needs to be
made fun so children will continue to enjoy exercise and lead
physically active lives as adults. |
Sharon Welch (Spe4me)
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Username: Spe4me
Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 2:36 am: | |
I will add this to my statements earlier. You have to educate your staff and administrators. Every year you have to sell your program to parents, new students, and new teachers. It's a process that never ends in my area which is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation (Loudoun County VA).
This year my principal is retiring. I have had her support for my program for 15 years. I will have to start over with why dodgeball is inappropriate, why we teach basic skills instead of having basketball tournaments, how I integrate health concepts, language arts, social studies, reading, and math in my program, and that Physical Education is an integral part of the whole educational process. Wish me luck! |
Michelle Homan (Michelleh)
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Username: Michelleh
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 6:21 am: | |
To All,
I am 25 years old, certified Elementary K-6, Special Education, certified coach, and have 3 years teaching experience in grades 6-8 and 3 years coaching experience 8th grade-Varsity.
I currently sub all grades, all subjects and am persuing my physical education certificate. I am beyond excited to finally persue my passion (my undergrad school did not have phys ed, but I was desperate to stay and play basketball) and feel I have a wealth of 'real world' teaching experience. The only thing I will not have is phys ed student teaching experience. My husband is in his 10th year and really is an excellent phys ed teacher. I sub phys ed as much as possible and take an active, or lead, role whenever possible. I educate myself on current issues such as NYS Standards, assessment, technology, etc. I subscribe to TEPE, and spend many mornings here and on PE Central. Phys Ed is truly my life passion and my goal is to be a positive role model and educator in the lives of young children. I am confident, but suppose I am looking here for some reassurance! |
Jacob Bersin (Jbersin)
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Username: Jbersin
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Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 3:32 pm: | |
Having taught at three different levels preschool, elementary and high school.There is no substitite for hands on experience. I you know of any tecahers who are willing to come in and talk to your students, I strongly suggest this. Im sure the students have a lot of good questions regarding the field, good luck |
Amy Souza (Asooz822)
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Username: Asooz822
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Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 12:25 pm: | |
Hi there. I am a 1st year teacher teaching PE/Hlth to K-1st grade. I have 7 1st grade classes, and one of the classes is almost uncontrolable in the gym and in the health room. The students do not have many rules in their classroom and that definately shows when they come to me. But, I don't put up with unsafe behavior and respect is #1. I have made a straight line sign and quiet line sign as a visuals to help, and I even make the class sit quietly instead of playing if they are not listening to my directions. It is very frustrating and I want to use some effective strategies for them.
How do i get these kids to follow my rules and expectations when they don't have many rules in their classroom?
Thanks for the help |
Tim Alwine (Tim)
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Username: Tim
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 12:02 pm: | |
Hi Everyone, I have taught Elementary Physical Education for a number of years. Here are the things that I would suggest to prospective teachers and colleges/universities.
1. Have more field experiences at the different levels(elementary, middle, and high school).
2. Have the student shadow a Physical education teacher for a day or two to see what their schedule is like, how they handle discipline, and organize their classes.
3. Invite Physical Education teachers from different levels to come in and talk to your students. Discuss any questions or concerns that the student might have before their teaching experience.
4. Make sure the student is well organized and is familar with the state standards and curriculum.
5. Have a sense of humor and be flexible. |
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